nobody did a hECKIN die
PLAYERS REMAINING
2) Noelle (she/her)
3) Arc (he/him)
4) Raven (she/her)
5) Snow (they/them/she/her)
6) Jai (she/her)
7) Star (she/her)
8) Dug (she/her)
9) Alastair (he/him)
ROLES REMAINING
Mafia
Mafia
Neutral
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Majority: 5
Day Ends: Wednesday at 1pm Pacific Time (unless day is skipped or someone is unanimously voted out or 24 hours after majority vote is reached)
101 comments:
OMG YES
We’re down one Mafia member who is also the framed (!!!) and no one died!!
So either the doctor healed whoever was targeted, there’s a roleblocked who blocked the right person, or they attacked the survivor (who is most likely Noelle)
Very slim chance they didn’t attack anyone, but why would they do that?
Yes!!!
We have a good chance of winning this thing now!
Bad news is that this gives us no new clues about the mafia
True, but it also means we still have the doctor and cop and plenty of other townies to help
Hopefully Snow’s suspicion was right and she found another mafia member
guess whom was roleblocked.
At least we know we have a bad roleblocker now. Down side, no solid leads.
Ah shoot
That was smart
Okay, well hopefully we have a roleblocker who Roleblocked a Mafia member
Except
It could go to battle of the roleblockers
Idk if that makes sense
I’m getting tired
Anyway
It Could have also been the doctor so maybe they’ll say if they healed someone, though that may be dangerous to give away who they are
It’s also possible they tried to kill Noelle who is most likely the survivor and in that case used her vest
But
Idk
BUTTT I didn’t- and I still have both vests!
So they didn’t try to kill me.
(Tldr: I didn’t use my vest last night so they either targetted someone else, OR they are playing an interesting game)
Best case scenario is that maybe the doctor healed me??? Maybe. Since I revealed myself as survivor...
Hm...
Dead: Trip and Elleni
Mafia: One Roleblock
Neutral: Survivor (Noelle)
Town: Cop (Snow) Doctor (...?) And townies.
Anyone else want to claim a role?
Okay, so we’re down to doctor healing, roleblocker, no kill
This could mean that the Mafia don't have a mafioso, and just have power roles, as either the roleblocker chose not to roleblock on the first night or the roleblocker was taking the kill that night, suggesting that they don't have a role with no action besides killing.
And I think it might be better if we don't claim roles..? We have a doctor, a cop, 2 citizens and a hidden role. Even if only the citizens fess up, that just pinpoints for the Mafia who they should target.
Something just occurred to me
If they don’t have a mafioso then they have a lookout or a consigliere which means they may already know who the doctor is, or another role
Or they could have another roleblocker or framer
Aaaaaaaaa
Omfg xD
@Sil: What do you propose we do then, if we don’t claim roles? Because, now, we have no new information if that happens. And basically then there is no point in a Day 2 and we all might as well skip the day
I was just saying that claiming our roles might not be the smartest choice because it will just put a target on the doctor, the cop, and the final hidden townie with an ability.
I don't know what the right move would be but that doesn't seem like a wise choice to me.
Sure there might be overlap, which narrows it down for the town, but it also lays it all out for the Mafia.
If people want to do that, they can, I just worry that it won't end well for us is all.
Jai, I understand where you’re coming from there, but at the same time, I want to put this out there just because of what happened during the night phase, given that there was no kill.
I’m a town rollblocker. I roleblocked Raven last night, and there was no kill. One possibility is that Raven is Mafia. Since Noelle didn’t use a vest last night, that the possibility of them attacking the survivor is out. The only other real option is that they chose not to kill for some reason.
Now, I’m not going to vote just yet, given that it could be a coincidence that I rollblocked and that there was no kill. I also realize that I just put a target on my head.
Also means that if Raven is mafia, she’s not a rollblocker
Did you roleblock on the first night
Okay, so I was roleblocked, not going to deny that. But I'm actually the investigator....so since we're kind of putting some suspicious stuff out there, I do want to say something about someone but I want to be certain of their claim.
Noelle, do you claim a survivor with vests?
Which also means that Arc has to be the evil roleblocker in my opinin, bc if I'm the last remaining town with an ability after the gunsmith. Then Arc has to be mafia right?
castvote Arc
Am I the neutral? Yes indeed.
Am I neutral survivor? No, I am not. But I am neutral. And I only claimed survivor because I knew it would keep me safe for the night.
Which, Raven, if I die tomorrow night, I'm blaming you.
So if you are neutral, you're either executioner, Jester or amnesiac
That is the correct line of knowledge, yes.
Okay, like I mean, I only wanted to check because one of the possible roles you could have been was mafia related but like idk, if you are 100% neutral and no one will cc that, then I won't push this any further I guess.
Thank you.
I’m.. Inclined to believe Raven about the whole Arc thing, but idk. Anyone have input?
Wait, if Arc was the evil role blocker and he role blocked Raven (which has been confirmed)
Then who role blocked Snow?
Because i highly doubt a town’s person would roleblock Snow
UNLESS
There are two roleblockers and they just chose to role block last night??
Advantages
-no new investigations against them
-possibly finding out more roles, figuring out more targets
-no “so who would kill this person and why”
Disadvantages
-lots o town people left
-possibly of investigator (could possibly not be role blocked)
-possiblilty of another role figuring something out
But basically, right now we have a doctor, a cop, 2 citizens, and something else
So either Raven or Arc is guilty
If there are two roleblockers
-only blocked people last night
-blocked Raven and Snow
-means it’s Arc
If there is only one role blocker or they only blocked one person
-Blocked Snow
-Tried to kill someone else
-most likely was roleblocked
-means it’s Raven
-(possible doctor healing but from this Info it sounds like doctor healed the wrong person)
What we know thus far:
Arc: Roleblocker (either good or evil)
Snow: Cop
Me: Neutral
Raven: Investigator/ Consiglierge
Alastair:
Star:
Dug:
Jai:
One of the remaining four is a doctor, one is a mafia, and the other two are townies.
UNLESS
Raven and Arc are both mafia and decided to play this out together.
BUT WAIT
Arc IS a mafia, and so might Raven. Arc actually blocks Snow, and they decide that Raven investigates me, but SAYS she is roleblocked (which, how can someone be roleblocked AND investigate in one night anyway?). They decide Raven throws Arc under the bus.
Idk
thoughts?
I’m just saying there might not be two roleblockers
It’s very possible there are not two roleblockers
You’re idea of what they may have done is quite brilliant, but It does mean there would be only one Mafia member left (most likely) which may or may not be worth the risk, idk
Also, Raven is probably using info she got on night one
If Star or Alastair also claim to be the other townie with power then it’s possible that Arc and Raven are working together
I suppose we will need go wait it out. And- we saw with last game of Snow, mafia should never be afraid to throw someone under the bus. If Raven and Arc are indeed in cohoots, then it is possible that the risk is that Raven proves her “innocence” by helping hang Arc.
What we know for sure is that Snow was roleblocked last night.
Well, I'm glad we managed to hang a mafia member last time.
I'm a citizen. I'm afraid that means I don't have any evidence to contribute, but I will be watching in case any reason to suspect someone comes up again.
Noelle- exactly, which is why I’m definitely not ruling anything out
So what we know is that snow was roleblocked so the Mafia have a roleblocker
Arc may or may not be an evil roleblocker
Raven may be a PI or may be a consigliere
Noelle is probably the neutral, though what type is unknown
Alastair may be a citizen
Star, Dug and I are all undeclared as of yet
Although
Just as a point
If the neutral is a Jester, or maybe even an executioner chances are they wouldn't challenge Noelle anyway, so she still might not be innocent
But she'd have to get lucky for that
It would be in their best interests to not challenge me.
*Feeds Elleni an ectoplasmic pancake*
Elleni- did you get my invite to the afterlife blog?
Regarding Noelle’s thoughts: I’m not smart enough to try to pull off something like that.
Given that Raven voted for me so quickly, though, Imma share the love and castvote Raven now, given the PI claim.
Sorry I've just been busy and unwell all day
Bloody hell you guys don't make casting votes easy, do you?
I WILL NOT LET ANYONE DIE IN VAIN
Okay, here's a question. Would a citizen know if they were roleblocked? Because if there are two roleblockers, it's easily feasible that one of them roleblocked a citizen first night.
Also, I'm gonna continue to not reveal my role until I have to. There's not that many unrevealed roles left but one of them is the doctor. It doesn't help to have the mafia know who that is.
A roleblocker could also have targeted Elleni or Trip
Anyone who was roleblocked would know even if they don't have a roleblock-able ability.
If a roleblocker targeted another roleblocker, the roleblock would fail, but both parties would receive notifications.
To be clear--the roleblocker doesn't get to know whether they blocked a citizen or a power role, only whether or not the person they roleblocked was immune
Arc, did you role block the first night?
No.
Why not
I didn’t feel like rollblocking night one. Nothing says I have to.
I would rather have some indication of who not to rollblock. Day 1 gave me that.
For now, I'm content to believe that Arc is good. Raven seems the most suspicious out of all of this, but that honestly doesn't mean anything.
My gut, without any real evidence, is saying Jai, but. Well. No evidence.
basically idk who I believe or don't believe but I'll vote for either Raven or Jai if that's what everyone else decides to do
I fond it difficult to believe that, two roleblockers would have decided to not use their abilities on night one.
Still pointing to the one-roleblock thing.
Just in case it helps to know, I have never been roleblocked.
Agreed Noelle
ALSO FOR SOME REASON I FEEL LIKE ITS JAI AND RAVEN TOO SNOW
but idk why, and last time I thought it was Trip, soooooo
Do you have any reasons as to why to suspect me or is it just gut feeling for both of you? I'm town, but I'm still not staying which role because there are two town roles not claimed and one is the doctor and that identity is better kept secret
Honestly I feel more like it's Arc than Raven, but I don't have any reason why I'd choose Arc over Raven other than that usually people do investigate on the first night, but that isn't really a good enough reason
**roleblock, not investigate, sorry
But at the same time, both Raven and Snow claim to have been roleblocked last night, and Raven confirmed having been blocked so Arc is a roleblocker, he hasn't most likely lied about that, and he did block Raven. So the Mafia might have two roleblockers, or it could be Raven, and not Arc, who is the one lying about the hidden town role
Is everyone forgetting that there's a good roleblocker? like, as an option?
I need to stop checking this blog only when I'm tired, because I can make sense of none of what any of you have said.
Basically, running theory from me: There's a bad roleblocker, and if Arc is telling the truth, there's also a good one
also, the only person I even vaguely trust at the moment is Noelle, and possibly maybe Star bc she always just gives me a trustworthy vibe and it's very calming.
Upon intense reflection, and a lot of scribbling
Castvote Raven
Haha Jai, nah there’s no reason to suspect you so don’t worry, you’re safe
I just thought it was funny we both kinda had the same suspicion for no reason
But I’m the past I’ve gotten so caught up with “I just feel like it’s this person!” That I’ve screwed things up
Awww thank you Snow :)
I trust me too XD
Actually as it happens the only person I vaguely trust right now is snow because she's pretty much confirmed as cop
Last time I was online I thought that either Arc or Raven or both were mafia but maybe Arc and Raven are both innocent and the mafia is someone else entirely??? Both their stories seem to add up
I don't really know
I'm still not that way so I'm not entirely sure I'm thinking clearly
But um
A bad roleblocker may not roleblock on night one because they might carry out the kill instead?
It makes more sense for a bad rooeblocker to not use their ability than for a good one not to imo
I also kind of have the feeling that it might be Jai but I don't have any evidence behind that either
^still not that well
Bloody hell
It's still majority of five, right?
Voting Arc: Raven
Voting Raven: Arc, Jai
No votes cast: Star, Snow, Noelle, Dugglyn, Alastair
Yeah. There are 8 people left so five is the majority.
St...Star doesn't trust me?? :(
hehe jk
After the result of our last vote, I feel it is reasonably safe to trust Snow. I also trust Noelle, in part because I just want to trust her, but also in part because I don't see any benefit for her in lying, and no one has counter claimed her role.
Alastair, even if I were mafia you would still trust me lol :p
I just hope we don’t end up at a standstill here
I feel like I should point on, bad role blockers can kill and block on the same night. So if they chose not to block night one, it wouldn't have been bc they were carrying out the kill.
That's actually not true for this game. (I changed it slightly since there are 3 mafia members). When there is one mafia member left, they will be able to both kill and do something else (if their role permits them to). When there is more than one mafia member they can each only do one thing at a time.
So do we have any real evidence against anyone?
Well it’s probably either Raven or Arc because their roles contradict each other
I feel like it’s Raven, but idk
Does it have to be either Raven or Arc? Arc could be a good roleblocker and Raven could be an investigator and that all seems to work out fine??
Right now I feel like it could literally be anyone except Snow (cop) and Noelle (neutral)
(and me. I know I'm not mafia :P)
Town have 1 cop, 1 doctor 2 citizens and 1 hidden role left
So it has to be either Raven or Arc, because we don't have 2 hidden roles left, just one
Castvote Arc
Any reason for that Noelle?
Oops! Sorry, I left out my reasoning when I c/p’d...
i’m inclined to trust Raven more because, well, if I were mafia, I would want me on my side. She did her investigation thingy, she has the facts, and she would want me to back her up and help her beat the townies. Honestly, if a mafia targetted me, they would be signing their death sentence I believe. Not with their numbers dwindling as they are.
So something occurred to me now that I’ve had time to think about this
We’re now fairly sure Noelle isn’t the survivor
Which means she could be the jester, the executioner, or the amnesiac.
I doubt she’s the jester because we’ve all agreed she the neutral so while it’s possibly she’s totally playing us, I’m not sure how confirming your neutral would help you get killed? (Of course one of my later points kinda points to her being a threat sooo)
Should she be the executioner, she wants someone to die, whether or not they’re actually guilty. So we need to be careful there
And finally, should she be the amnesiac, it would be possible she has claimed Elleni’s role
I would be surprised, as being a Mafia member is hella fun and last time Noelle was extremely good at it. And she has the cover of being a neutral
So basically, moral of the story is we should be careful with how we use the information Noelle gives us
@Fabi would we know if she was an amnesiac and took someone's role?
If an amnesiac takes a role, I add "the amnesiac took the role of role" to the day phase. The identity of the amnesiac would not be revealed though.
Okay
So if she is amnesiac, she has yet to take a role
If she's not amnesiac, she's probably executioner
Oh good okay that didn’t occur to me last night
Ya know what
castvote Raven
I just think it’s her over Arc and might as well take a risk
Or maybe that was a bad choice...
IDK!!!!
Voting Arc: Raven, Noelle
Voting Raven: Arc, Jai, Dug
No votes cast: Star, Snow, Alastair
Majority needed: 5
I trust Snow at this point, but looking back to her earlier comment, I don't know why the mafia would choose to roleblock her but not kill her.
I feel fairly confident that either Raven or Arc is guilty, but I don't know how to determine which one.
The doctor is likely healing snow, so they can't kill her until they figure out who the doctor is
^^^ what Jai said
The doctor probably felt fairly safe after yesterday and the cop is incredibly useful so it’d make sense they’d want to save her
Of course they might have figured it’d be too obvious to kill Snow and possibly healed someone else
castvote Arc
The fact Raven knew Noelle wasn't a survivor makes the claim of investigator more credible, to me, so I think I'll go with this unless someone comes up with better evidence.
Voting Arc: Raven, Noelle, Alastair
Voting Raven: Arc, Jai, Dug
No votes cast: Star, Snow
Majority needed: 5
Either snow or star need to agree, there will be no vote, or people need to swap sides
My worry is that Raven could be a consigliere. That way she'd know Noelle wasn't a survivor, and her lie would be more convincing because a half lie is always more convincing that a full lie.
^^^ again what Jai said xD
But like, still not sure it’s Raven
Okay so
By my count there's twenty minutes left to vote
But unless Snow votes or people switch sides my vote won't count anyway, so I'm not going to bother making a decision unless my vote is the casting vote or unless someone else comes online being decisive wanting to have the casting vote
^indecisive
Let's hope there's no kill again tonight
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