Henry, the telepathic ninja owl was practicing his dance skills very loudly. He was displeased at having lost a dance battle to a puppy.
Meanwhile, somebody in dark blue exited one house and entered another. The somebody took off her gloves and set them by the door, next to a briefcase that hadn't been opened recently. She hadn't needed the contents.
There was a knock at the door.
"Who is it?" the Somebody asked suspiciously.
"I'm terribly sorry to bother you, but would you mind letting me in please?" asked Someone.
Somebody frowned. "Why do you want to come in?"
There was a little cough from outside. "Well... er... you see..."
The door opened, and Somebody saw Someone's silhouette in the doorway, but couldn't discern their face.
"I'm terribly sorry to burst in uninvited like this," said Someone. "However, I'm afraid I need to kill you."
"Um. I am absolutely not okay with that," said Somebody--said Star.
"See, I realize that, but it's just me now, and I need to kill everybody. You're somebody, therefore I need to kill you." Someone pulled out a small gun and shot twice. "Part of my job is making sure the Town people all die, and that includes you. I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience."
Star, Doctor, did not respond. She was ever-so-slightly dead.
Players remaining: Arc, Dugglyn, Jai, Raven, Snow, Trip,
Roles remaining: 4 Town, 1 Mafia, 1 Neutral
Majority vote: 4
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Great, now we're down the doc and the cop.
Oh shit I thought Star was the other Mafia member
Well
We need to hang the Mafia member today
So I’d say Jai is safe as she gave us legit info
Idk about Raven, but I have no reason to doubt she’s not neutral?
So
Confirmed( according to me)
Star- doctor
Noelle- cop
Ember- Mafia
Me- citizen
Almost confirmed
Jai- busybody
Idk man
Raven- neutral?
Trip- citizen????
Sooo
Arc
Snow
I have no clue
I don’t trust Trip mug either, but idk if that’s me being suspicious for no reason
I originally thought Arc could possibly be the Doctor, so again the last theee should be taken with a grain of salt
Yesterday the order of voting went like this
Jai
Snow (makes me a bit less suspicious of her)
Arc
Raven
Star
Trip
Me (wow makes me look suspicious..)
So, anyone have any real info??
Nooooooooooo!!!! D: D: D:
Why
Why
I’m so sorry Star! We’ll miss you!
(Also sorry I was suspicious of you )
Yeah, Dug, at the moment I'm the most suspicious of you and arc. Though Arc is PROBABLY just bc I don't know him well enough to know if he's acting odd or not.
I'd like to come forward and say I'm a helpful role, but... Even if I was, at this point I'm not going to claim anything more then civilian. We need all the helpful roles we can get.
Oh nuts xD This is NOT a good game for us..
So. Good news and bad news.
Good news, I know what type of mafia member is left! :D
Bad news, it's a roleblocker. Who roleblocked me. So I saw nothing last night.
But I wasn't watching star anyway.
I'm suspicious of Trip, Dug, Snow, but mainly because all three have claimed civilian and I reeeeeally hope all three ARENT civilian and that one of y'all is mafia.
But thats not what I want to look at. What I want to look at, is why Noelle, and why Star.
Understandable Snow
Looking at the order in which people voted for a legitimate Mafia member is pretty helpful
And
I voted last
So! :D
I highly doubt there are three citizens
But if the role blocker is a Mafia member then it COULD be possible
Wait
Can someone role block and kill???
Because there’s only one Mafia member
I mean, I'd assume they can role block and kill?? otherwise that'd be a really cruel move from Jai to throw her fellow mafia under the bus and pretend to block herself.
Yeah, Fabi made it so that Mafia can perform their night action and kill in the same night
NM they can roleblock and kill
And if I was a mafia member I a) wouldn't make a mistake of outing myself by not having read up on the rules correctly and b) wouldn't have thrown my fellow member under the bus on the first day without any valid reason to do so
Have some faith :P I'm not a complete moron.
It was Arc who said they were roleblocked yesterday
Confirmed: Mafia members with special night actions can both perform those night actions and kill in this game.
So
Noelle, Arc, Star
These all seem like stabs in the dark.
Is it bad that these three targets lead me to believe it's only of the earlier gen?
Jai, I have all the faith in you :P
yeah, Arc first, then you. So. Are these blockings and killings just based on random things, or is there a pattern? Sherlock mode.
Okay so IF we mostly believe people
If Arc was actually roleblocked then he’s not Mafia
Honestly I’m suspicious of Trip, but there’s no reason for me to trust Snow?
Man, I'm theorising right now but I get the feeling I'm completely wrong and the mafia is laughing their arse off.
I'd be hurt, Dug, but I mean I haven't exactly given you reason to trust me. I'm trying to be careful, but in doing that I AM making myself a little suspicious. Pfft.
Why would I vote for my fellow mafia member so quickly though? Just please trust me and if I make it through the next night, I'll tell you what I am.
And we need a nearly unanimous vote againnnnnn ugh
Noelle, Arc, Star, Me
At the risk of sounding cocky, I feel like blocking me was an obvious move, so I'm removing myself from that list.
But, they were smart enough to recognise that roleblocking me wouldn't kill me because chances are the doctor would be protecting me too. So they're smart, they targeted someone else.
Noelle, Arc, Star
We know that they had no information about Noelle and Arc, because that was first night stuff. They had little to no information from Star, because she didn't claim a role.
But perhaps her not claiming a role also led to her being short listed as a potential doctor, so I'll remove her for now just in case the Mafia are super smart.
Noelle and Arc
Ah right, that’s why I kinda trusted Snow!
I kinda trust Raven to be neutral but I don’t think we should rule her out right away
Brief reminder that I was roleblocked during the first night phase. Not that it did anything, since I'm a vanilla citizen.
Oh fuck
No way there are that many citizens
That moment when you misread something and don't realize that it was brought up already
YOOOOOOOOOO This is the best y'all.
I was an executioner and Star was my target and I was straight up praying she's eat it last night and dammnnnnn. Now I win with town bc am survivor so like, am actually ready to jump into helping you crack this.
Let me have a little ready through the findings then the game, is on.
Also, Star, rest in peace. Sorry it had to end this way.
So while I realize for others I’ll be on this list, my order of suspicion is
1. Trip- one of the last to vote
2. Arc- third to vote
3. Snow- second to vote
I trust Raven and Jai I think
Okay here's what I'm thinking.
It can't be
Jai - pretty much confirmed busybody, otherwise a really risky game and if it is that kind of risky game she deserves to win, bc that's wild af, also roleblocked
Arc - roleblocked - no one else has cc'ed this, he and Jai can't have planned this thing together bc only one maf left so that's pretty chill
Raven - no one has claimed to be the neutral, so you're probs not
Reasons why it might be:
Snow - My gut said Snow on day 1, this was bc she was really vocal in getting me off from the lynch circus. I don't know why a townie would be that committed. Unless they weren't a townie and all along wanted to garner my trust so that I would work with mafia. (Which by the way I totally would have if the numbers were more in the mafia's favour. I love chaos.) Otherwise I also think she could be vig.
Dugglyn - Weird vibes but an odd feeling of trust. Idk probs guity though.
Trip - I just don't think it's him, because he's wayyyyyy to quiet to be anything but a civilian. Like there's no urgency to save himself, and no urgency to try and find the maf. He's just trying to get through the day.
Honestly, I wasn't vocal about not killing YOU specifically, I was vocal about not killing without evidence. Jai gave evidence (and honestly I was also very tired :P)
I swear to God Fabi xD
Okay. Well. Fabulous. Imma delude myself into believing you're all lying and secretly have amazing powers and that I didn't muck up by revealing myself too early thus screwing over the towns one remaining way of investigating. Mhmm.
Right then. Assuming that Raven isn't completely evil, just a bit of a wild card instead, that leaves snow, trip, dug, arc
And I don't particularly trust either of them xD
Based on the targets I want to say Trip, but I don't want to be wrong cause I'm pretty sure if I am then lil psycho bird over there is gonna switch sides (:P love you Raven)
if we vote wrong we wake up with 1 town, 1 neutral, 1 Mafia
And psychobird, or whoever the neutral is in general, would be the decider.
Wait
No
Morning Jaimie can't math
Ignore that
I was about to say, that math doesn't sound right :P
All I'm asking is that you guys give me until the next day cycle. I have a plan and if it works, which I hoping it does, we'll win.
Are you asking us not to vote for anyone today, or to vote but not for you?
If we don’t vote today another person dies tonight.
But if we vote wrong two towns people die.
But we could win
I wanna hear what Trip has to say
I'm not asking you not to vote, I'm just trying to like. Prove I'm good without revealing too much. I get that it's not exactly making me sound great, though.
I'm not really sure who I suspect at the moment? It's all just been a whole lot of finger pointing and no evidence so. I don't know.
I'm not too trusting of Dug, because she was the last to vote last time and she seemed really hesitant about saying it was Ember, but that's not enough for me to believe it's her, because I've done the same in the past.
I feel like I've lost the hang of this game in the like. Year. Since I played it last. Damn.
I just don't wanna die tonight xD :( But fair, we won't vote if none of you wish to. Not that I could force you to in any way.
Jai, holding a knife to our throats: VOTE
I mean. That's actually a good point. If you die, unless someone else is secertly another busybody, we're out of luck.
GAH! I want more evidence. Is there, like, a muddy boot print somewhere I can stare at?
Yeah I kinda realized that when I voted last and then tried to figure out who was guilty by looking at who voted last
Logic issues on my part
There isn't a knife to your throats xD Just a few snipers aiming for various parts of your body :P
Nah, the best plan of action might be to not vote, so that tomorrow it's 1 3 1 and you lot don't have to rely on the psychobird (<3)
Psychobird. You're so full of love an endearment.
Psychobird is endearing! Plus, she could wind up being out inevitable downfall and that doesn't sit well with me xD
To be honest your suspicions are too real. Like if it was me, you and the gosh darn maf, I'd probs flip a coin. Heads maf wins, tails town lose.
At the same time, I do need to make it to the end, so I'm hella town rn bc maf has no hope.
Still, I reckon it's only either Dug or Snow.
So we lynch one today and then lyncht he other tomorrow. I reckon Snow is a Vig, bc they can't really claim any other special role.
So for the thrills, how about we do this:
1. Snow, you claim Vig (which you probs are)
2. Dug, as maf, imo, you kill Snow.
3. Jai you watch one of them to get the info if one doesn't die.
4. Both die and we lose a town in a flaming blaze of glory but town still wins.
However if both die and both are town. The Jai, Arc and I all vote for Trip and town still wins.
It's a dope ass plan.
Haha I wish I was a Mafia member
Though I probably would have watched my moves more carefully
If you guys really do think I’m the evil roleblocker let’s at least hear what Trip has to say first, okay?
Actually I still think Trip is the evil doer
But that's just
Kinda
Gut instinct
Which has served me wrong before
happy new year. Just thought I'd take a moment out of the seriousness for that. <3
Yeah, Happy New Year! To the best versions of ourselves in 2018!
Look to be honest I definitely think it's Dug.
To the point where I am happy to do this.
castvote Dug
But, like I'll change that if Trip has some compelling evidence.
Y'know, for an executioner who has already killed their person, and for someone who technically has enough life jackets to survive the game now, and for someone who isn't a target to the mafia unless you help us, in which case you become a threat to them, you're very insistent about killing Dug
*cough* when executioners change they get no life jackets *cough*
I missed that
However you're still making yourself a target
Alright, I'm not necessarily insistent to lynch Dug, but I am insistent to lynch one of either Dug, Snow or Trip, and for 7 cheap payments of $109.99, I'll tell you why.
At this point unless either Jai or Arc have pulled one of the shiftiest moves in the whole game, you're both confirmed town. No one else has claimed a neutral role, I'm the confirmed neutral. That leaves us with, Dug, Snow and Trip. So if I were the mafia (as one of these three this is how the game would look to me).
1 - If we don't lynch today, the smartest move is to not role block anyone other than Jai or Arc, bc to rb anyone else is to confirm they are town.
2 - I would only kill either Jai or Arc, bc to kill anyone else to confirm they are town.
Therefore if we don't lynch and since we don't have a doc or a cop, we can neither defend ourselves or track them down the nights from here on would play out like.
N3 - Either Jai or Arc dead/rb'ed.
D3 - No lynch bc once again no information and we're all still hesitant to get it wrong.
N4 - The remaining of Jai and Arc dead, no one is rb'ed so there can be no confirmed inno (or even sneakier, pretend it was you who was rb'ed)
D4 - 1 neutral. 2 towns and a maf remains. Have to lynch today or tomorrow, might get it right. If wrong. Town loses. If you wait.
N5 - a town dies (why would they kill me when I'm their last hope)
D5 - 1 maf, 1 town, 1 neutral. Fight to the death in which whoever convinces the neutral wins. (you've got a 50/50 chance of winning - not great odds)
However....
I believe we should lynch one of the three today bc it starts to narrow down the pool of suspects.
D2 - hang one of the three suspects - if right, town wins. If wrong, we go to bed.
N3 - maf plays it safe and Either Jai or Arc dead/rb'ed.
D3 -2 town, 1 maf, 1 neutral now it's the same 50/50 chance of winning that there was D5 of the last game (if you lynch the mafia you win, if you lynch the town maf automatically wins by killing you at night). As one of the two remaining suspects will die, except, it's no longer my decision who wins as two townies remain. The decision lies majorly with the town.
Also, if the maf kills me they're mad bc as much as I'm offering advice to you now, I'm still their last ally so that's why I'm pretty safe. And if not, hey, you gotta go big or go home and when I read Executioner when I got my role, I only really ever saw anarchist (with morals, sympathetic to the plight of the town as I actively prayed for one of your own to get got).
In the end, lynch or no lynch, the odds of town winning this are very low if they don't get the mafia.
The only spanner in the works which you can use to your advantage is a vigilante. And if you think hard enough there's a pretty foolproof way to shoot tonight in order to weed out the maf if we lynch someone.
Actually lol i think if the town has Vig and we lynch one of the three suspects today and neither Jai or Arc aren't lying. Then the town can't lose.
I'm a vigilante. You got that right, Raven.
I honestly wasn't going to SAY anything until tomorrow bc I was gonna use my bullet, but I'm guessing now that you've mentioned it I'd either be blocked or killed anyway (unless they ARE going to not confirm anyone else good and continue to block/kill the confirmed).
I don't honestly know who I trust more out of Trip and Dug. Dug has been on more, but that doesn't REALLY mean anything. She seems the most suspicious bc of her late vote, but. What if we're wrong?
Someone else tell me what to do, I don't even know anymore.
Happy New year guys, sorry to be a bit absent but I was making merry. Didn't expect quite so many comments :p
So, I think that I got all of that, but I'm a bit hung over so sorry if I missed something. From what I understand, Snow, Dug and I are the suspects so first things first:
Please don't lynch me. I'm a citizen and I want to live to see the town win.
Now that's out of the way, I know Dug has just been itching to hear what I have to say. Honestly, not much. Dug voted last, but I voted penultimately so that's not massively incriminating in my eyes. It would be quite ballsy of Snow to claim to be a vigilante if she wasn't, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
I feel like Dug is probably the most likely, but I think we discounted Arc too easily. It'd be moderately risky, but it's not an insane move to claim to be roleblocked on the first night to escape suspicion, so I reckon he should be on the list too.
I'm leaning towards Dug, but as you saw from last night I'm reticent to jump to conclusions.
"Y'know, for an executioner who has already killed their person, and for someone who technically has enough life jackets to survive the game now, and for someone who isn't a target to the mafia unless you help us, in which case you become a threat to them, you're very insistent about killing Dug"
A few things about how the executioner works: (this is not confirmation of there being an executioner in the game)
-- their target is completely random
-- they only count as having "killed their person" if their target is eliminated during the day.
-- if their target is killed at night, the target cannot be eliminated during the day, leaving the Executioner no way to fulfill their original win conditions
-- if that happens, they are assigned new win conditions. (The game is more fun when all of the "alive" players have the possibility of winning)
-- the new win conditions are simply to survive until the end. They can win with mafia or Town
-- these are the exact same win conditions as survivor, which is why I made the comparison there
-- the executioner does not receive any survivor vests, nor is their role changed on the rolelist--they will be revealed as executioner if they die
-- the executioner's target is not officially revealed until the end of the game, even if the target dies and the executioner dies
Okay
Well
If I'm voting
Castvote Trip
Wait why D:
Honestly Trip, I'm not going to lie, between you, Dug, Snow and Arc, I have no idea which one of you is evil but my gut is screaming you
I'm really sorry for if my gut is horribly wrong
It wouldn't be the first time
If it helps, I'll probably die tonight anyway, so, there's that. That, or just keep being roleblocked over and over.
I don't have any evidence bc I'm just a citizen but your gut is wrong so please don't kill me
I just realised that if Arc is the mafioso then he could have chosen not to roleblock on the first night and claim to have been roleblocked, which isn't exactly a bad play and kinda makes more sense than blindly blocking someone on tge first night.
I feel like I'm between Arc and Dug, what do you guys think
If I were the mafioso, I wouldn’t have been so quick to throw the other mafioso under the bus. I would’ve waited til everyone else had voted, or til it was obvious that they would be voted out. Honestly, I’m between Trip and Dug. However, I’m more apprehensive to vote at this point because if we screw up, that’s one town dead during the day, one town/neutral during the night, and possibly a vigilante kill at night as well. Assuming all 3 happen, and that the vigilante kills a town, then that leaves at most, 2 town, at least, 1.
Arc has a good point.
Can people please decide if we're voting today or not xD
Shall we just skip to the end of the day, see what occurs tonight? Then the surviving people can regroup in the morning and figure out what's what.
If we do that, worst case scenario, we're left with 2 town, 1 Mafia and 1 neutral.
My only concern with that is, should the wrong person be lynched, town lose
If no one is lynched, it becomes a coin flip, and we've a 50/50 chance
Best case scenario if we don't vote today, only one person dies tonight, and we're left with 1 neutral, 3 town and 1 Mafia
Where lynching the wrong person results in a 50/50 split
And not lynching cuts down to 2 town, 1 neutral, 1 Mafia after one more night
And so on and so forth
Fabi, hypothetically speaking, what order to the night actions for a vigilante and a Mafia roleblocker occur?
The Roleblocker roleblocks, and then both kill at once.
Order of operations:
--Twin and mafia chats open up
--Busybodies watch (can still be roleblocked)
--Roleblockers of any alignment roleblock
--Survivors put on vests
--Framers frame
--Cop investigates
--All kills (so if a vigilante and mafioso target each other during the same night, both will die)
--Doctor heals
--Amnesiac takes a role
I agree that you're similar to Snow in suspicion, Arc. However, it could still be that you and Ember agreed that tgere was already an ironclad case against her and that you should vote to kill her to escape suspicion. It's just important we consider it to make sure that we survive.
Okay. If you want to go with Trip, Jai, based on your gut, I'm happy with that.
unvote Dug
castvote Trip
Because tonight then, if Trip was town, the mafia can only role block either the vig or the busbody. If the vig is roleblocked, as long as Jai watches either Dug or Snow we find out the maf. (If vig doesn't shoot bc of roleblock whichever of the two was visited is the mafia)
If the busbody is roleblocked, the maf is killed by the vig.
Trip, that doesn’t make sense. The mafia wouldn’t have known there was a busybody, nor would they have been able to communicate during the day phase. Given that it was day 1 that she was voted out, there wouldn’t have been time to make an agreement to vote her out because of the busybody coming forward.
My gut is still saying Dug, I'm gonna be honest. I'll vote trip when/if someone else does so we can have a majority if that's what y'all think is best, but. Yeah.
I meant that you could have decided after Jai revealed herself and Snow made her game theory comment demonstrating that believing Jai was the optimal route regardless of outcome. I'm not accusing you, I'm just pointing out that it's perfectly logically possible for you to be mafia.
Speaking of which, I'm aware that technically there's as much reason to vote to kill me as Dug and that the barrel does seem to be pointing at me. Like I said before, I don't have any evidence at my disposal to convince you to change your minds. Regardless, I'm a citizen and really don't want to die. Please don't kill me, I'm good. Let's all just back away from this ledge and talk a bit more.
That first bit was about what Arc said btw
The time for talking passed when we lost two good soldiers in this war to an enemy we have no hope of tracking down unless we act now.
Trip if you think it's Dug, throw your vote towards her, there are two others whose gut says Dug and then Jai or Arc can join in and there's a majority there. We can't back away from the ledge - this whole town's a ledge and we have to lynch today. Time is running out. And the only reason to postpone the running of these events for another day is if you're the mafia and you're afraid of being pinned down.
I get also that if you are town and you die it would be tragic and awful but you would be serving the greatest singular cause since the last greatest singular cause in history.
I feel like Murder Crow might not be the best counsel here?
First psychobird, now Murder Crow. Y'all don't seem very fond of the neutral party whose only goal is to survive.
castvote Trip
Running on zero evidence, but realistically we need to vote someone out at this point, and I’m not going to be on much of the next 27 hours of this day phase.
whelp, I said I'd do it if someone else did. It's normally 6 hours of defense time/vote withdrawl, right? I'll be asleep then. idk if anyone else will withdraw votes, either, so, uh...
Trip, dude, if it's not you, sorry. Sucks that the first time we're talking in a while is when there's a murderer about. Can't be helped, though.
castvote Trip I guess
(also, Murder Bird, really? Raven is lovely and neutral and we need her on our side if we want to win. Give her nice names, like... uh.... Tweety.)
I don't wanna die D:
I guess we're basically stabbing in the dark and I'm the unlucky one. Which means I basically have to go for broke. I'm not sure, so I didn't want to push it, but if someone has to die it should probably be Arc.
Why would the roleblocker block on the first night? All it does is give information to the town. Wouldn't it make more sense to claim that you were roleblocked and gain trust?
Arc only voted to kill Ember after she was pretty much doomed, what with Snow's ironclad case for killing her, so that's not helpful.
Finally, he didn't address my point about him being a potential mafia member, choosing in stead to simply vote for my execution. Where everyone else has been very willing to accept the reasoning behind acknowledging their potential membership, Arc resisted, even going so far as to misinterpret my points to avoid suspicion.
I'm not saying this is a perfect case, but there's a lot more to it than a hunch and a bandwagon. If I'm wrong then that's really bad, but all I have to work with in terms of unique info is that I'm good, so I know that this has a better chance fkr the town than killing me
Ya, what are the odds the supreme galactic overload gives us till the end of the day phase to like, hash this out and change our vote to Dugglyn by the end of all this hashing.
(Also Snow, mad respect to you, my dude)
And castvote [Arc] as well, I guess :p
Four votes against Trip: Jai, Raven, Arc, Snow
One vote against Arc: Trip
Not yet voted: Dug
Four votes is a majority, but I'm traveling all day today and probably don't have time to write for a bit. I'll give you until I get to school, which is gonna be like 14 hours ish. If there is still a majority vote by then, Trip will be eliminated. If Dugglyn votes for Trip and it's unanimous, the vote will be locked sooner, and I will write it up during my layover if I end up having time.
Y'all
I really hope we haven't made a bad choice
Trip makes a good case about Arc, but either way it's a stab in the dark which doesn't sit well with me and idk what to do
However I am glad that psychobird accepts the nickname psychobird
Guys please don't do this I'm a townie.
I have reasons for why we should lynch Arc. They're not great, but there's something there. Surely it's better to kill someone for a reason than a hunch?
Ahh just realised I've been misgendering Snow loads. I'm really sorry
s'all good. I usually swing between they/them and she/her on a whim, just happened to be in a they/them mindset on the day I signed up. I'd have mentioned it if it annoyed me. :)
SORry guys!! New Years was kinda crazy and then I had to go back to school today
But honestly since Trip made his first comment I’ve been thinking it might be him
Castvote Trip
*will add more after signing up for SAT*
It is possible Arc is lying BUT why risk that on the first night when you could possibly block the doctor or cop?
Idk, it currently is mainly protecting him, but would that have been thought of that early on?
Also, Trip wanted us to reveal our roles in the beginning
He then backed out on that when someone said it wouldn’t be helpful
And while idk if that could always be seen as suspicious, it seems to fit with the idea of him being part of the Mafia
But again
This kinda is a stab in the dark, though Trip and I seem most suspicious and I know it’s not me
Just so we all know where I stand, if Trip dies and he's a town I 1000000000% think that Dug is the maf.
Yeah I figured
But I’m really not
So
We better hope Trip is the Maf xD
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