Friday, March 2, 2018

Day 3 plus role equivalency lisr

Star died very tragically while she was playing with Blu-Tac. Her role was Skulduggery Pleasant. 


Order of Operations for Night Actions:
--China holds target for investigation
--Reflection takes a role
--Anton Shudder goes on alert (can still be roleblocked)
--Remnant possesses (can still be roleblocked unless they are possessing the Roleblocker)
--Fletcher Renn and Billy-Ray Sanguine switch (can still be roleblocked)
--Jaron Gallow roleblocks
--Sea Hag cleans target
--Skulduggery Pleasant, Valkyrie Cain, Reverie Synecdoche, and Eliza Scorn investigate
--Tanith Low Protects
--Dusk converts
--Diablerie kills
--Doctor heals
--Vindick Leather visits
--Vaurien Scapegrace attempts to kill

SANCTUARY: Goal is to find and kill all Diablerie and evil neutrals
Skulduggery Pleasant-- Cop
Valkyrie Cain-- PI
Kenspeckle Grouse-- Doctor
Ghastly Bespoke,  Corrival Deuce-- Citizen with immunity to Vindick Leather
Gordon Edgely-- Citizen, but PI learns exact role and Consig learns only fake roles (Town power roles)
Fletcher Renn-- Teleporter/Bus Driver
Anton Shudder-- Veteran/Trigger Happy
Eachan Meritorious-- Mayor/Grand Mage
Tanith Low-- Bodyguard
China Sorrows-- Jailer
Reverie Synecdoche-- Coroner


DIABLERIE: Goal is to kill all the Sanctuary.
Batu -- Godfather, but not as many immunities.
Dusk-- Vampire
Eliza Scorn-- Consigliere
Billy-Ray Sanguine-- Kidnapper/Shunter
Jaron Gallow-- Evil Roleblocker.
Sea Hag-- Janitor


Neutral: Goals vary
Vaurien Scapegrace-- Weak SK--town can win with him still alive
Remnant-- Witch
Reflection-- Amnesiac

Vindick Leather-- Jester/Arsonist hybrid

108 comments:

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Never fear, Valkyrie is here!

I investigated Jai and got Kenspeckle, Tanith, Scapegrace and Dusk
The two town roles are good
castvote Jai

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

**gone not good

Noelle said...

I investigated Elleni and got Kenspeckle, Synecdoche, Batu, and Jaron Gallow.

I agree that Jai can go, but in case I’m killed...

Raves said...

I'd like to hear what Jai has to say.

Do we know that you can't have multiple of the same town, bc I'm not sure if we clarified so I don't want to go in all guns blazing right now?

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Haha I asked Fabi
Noelle isn’t Valkyrie
You can’t have two towns people

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Of the same role

Sorry I sent it early!

Noelle said...

By the way, I was also visited by Vindick Leather

Noelle said...

But I am Valkyrie..? How else would I have been able to investigate?

Noelle said...

YOU LITTLE LIAR

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Okay so someone out there wants to get killed
Good to know!

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

ME???
IM NOT LYING
YOU ARE

Noelle said...

Dugglyn are you posing as Val to frame Sil???
LISTEN,

I died as Tanith, became Val.
Night one I investigated my main bb Alastaor, and got: Val (obviously not), Shudder, Bespoke, and China.

Night two i investigated Raven, then she died.

Night three I investigated Elleni.

Sooooo if it is true that there cannot be more than one of the same role, then Dugglyn is lying

Noelle said...

Am not! I’m betting you all 10:1 that elleni and Dugglyn are bad! Elleni jumped right in there after Dugglyn accused Jai, without even hearing Jai’s side!

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

No! I’m Val and idk who you are or why you’d lie cause like
Everyone knows you’re innocent

I was role blocked
And then I investigated Connor and got Eliza, Fletcher, Gordon and China

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

I have solid proof, it makes sense that El would vote with me!

Noelle said...

By the way, the neutral (unless Raven took a neutral role) is indeed Vinidick. Which is important info.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

I believe you about that one

Noelle said...

Based on you flying in proclaiming your Val-ness!!!

This is clever, going for a larger role, and taking the “I’ll fight someone” tactic but I guarantee that you picked the wrooooong big role to impersonate because I am MEAN! :p

Noelle said...

Unless Dugglyn is Vinidick and is jestering the shit out of this, to which I would applaud

Noelle said...

Yeah. castvote Dugglyn
You’re either a bad guy or trying to get killed; either way, I’m voting for you!

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Cannot be two of any character name.

Noelle said...

Also, @Elleni; if you’re supposedly Synecdoche, then you should have useful and valuable information.

I’m saying this because I doubt you’re synecdoche. probably Batu, actually.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Hey wait no you don’t wanna kill another townie, do ya??

Noelle said...

Leather isn’t a townie, he is an arsonist hybrid, and town can win by killing all evil neutrals and bad guys.

And yes, I am happy to make an exception for your case.

Lil liar :o

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Wow okay I see how it is
Maybe I’ll just vote for you. How does that sound, hmm?

Lol jk I know you’re not evil, you’re just not good either!

Or
Wait
Could you be a neutral person???

Noelle said...

Oh, please. You know exactly who I am. Listen, I’m 95% certain you’re Vindick, at which case, you’re welcome.

The other 5% is some bad guy

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Maybe YOU are Vindick
By saying you were visited by him you imply you’re not him, and by claiming a role I’ve already claimed you look guilty

Noelle said...

By the way, Jai claimed night one she was taken in by China.
Based on my first investigation of Alastair, I am certain that role belongs to him. So I think if Alastair has any info that is useful, that would be nice.

Based on Alastair’s claim of being roleblocked night two (and Dugglyn’s claim for night one), I’m inclined to believe there is indeed an evil roleblocker.

Star claimed that there is someone who is switched, so we have either Fletcher or BRS.

Based on me being visited by Vindick, (yes, I am aware that by them visiting me, i will now die unless healed or made immune), we know we have at least one neutral who is not great.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

We only got one neutral

I’m 95% sure it’s you
Idk which neutral though

Noelle said...

Yeah, don’t even try that on me xD I’m not going to play table tennis of back and forth on this matter.

I’m not implying I’m not Vindick; I’m stating it. When I died as Tanith, I came back as Valkyrie. If I had returned as a mafia or neutral, the rolelist would have reflected that; however, we currently have the same number of neutrals and mafia that we did at the begnning.

(at least, I think that’s how the rolelist works).

Regardless, I’m not going to go on defense here. I’m a bomb detective.

Noelle said...

^Except we have only had one neutral since the beginning and I came in as Tanith

Noelle said...

BTW, if you are indeed Vindick, I am aware that I’m going to die as well if you get lynched. Just as a TLDR. Justice is worth dying for xD

Noelle said...

I’m also going to bed but we will resume this!

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

But the number of townies didn’t change either
There was a set number of townies and neutrals in the beginning and we didn’t know which roles were left unfilled
So it’s entirely possible you’re a neutral person

Also that’s good because I need to sleep as well! I have to get up at 5 to do hair and makeup!

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Okay, well shit

I am none of the roles that Dugglyn has stated, so I'm going to side with Noelle here and agree that Dugglyn is lying for whatever reason. Dug, just because everyone every round always says "My gut says it's Jaimie" doesn't mean FRAME JAIMIE.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Yeah, I feel fine doing this CastVote Dugglyn I don't see how lying about your role like this would be useful to you if you were a town member, so you must be some sort of neutral or Mafia role

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

And while I wouldn't usually vote against a neutral role, since they're essentially an extra vote for the town usually, it wouldn't help a neutral role that aren't agaibst the town to lie like this I don't think

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Shit, yeah. We'll be down to 3.3, possibly lower if she's visited more people.

Maybe we have an Eachan Meritorous..? Or is that being too hopeful?

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Wait
Why has no one else been visited by Vindick though? I mean, I know their aim is to die during the day, not to kill people but..?
Although I guess if your aim is to die during the day, visiting a lot of people isn't good because it risks you being preserved to ensure half the town doesn't die..

Connor said...

jai and elleni agree with noelle and they probably aren't all mafia so castvote dugglyn also nothing happened to me last night :P

Raves said...

I reckon we kill Elleni.

If Dug is Vindick, then that's not good for us to kill. Elleni on the other hand, came through with some hella sus voting, pretty much blindly voting Jai.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

I mean
I don't blame her for voting me so quickly? When I was busybody however many rounds ago people almost instantly voted against the person I said was the Mafia, so it kinda makes sense, or at least it's happened before.
But idk, if we kill Dug we almost definitely seal our doom.. but if we don't vote we also seal our doom. There's a lot of doom here.

For now though unvote Dug. We need more time to think.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Wow, okay then, everyone gang up on Dugglyn
It seems none of you believe I’m Val, so let’s say I’m Vindick and not vote for me, okay?

Noelle said...

Yeah, which by the way

Vindick visited me, so you’d lose your PI role. Just as an aside.


.... Fine. unvote Dugglyn .

Ok, so..
Dugglyn: Questionable
Alastair: China? (good)
Star: Skulduggery
Me: Val
Elleni: Synecdoche or evil
Connor: ?
Trip: ?
Raven: ?
Jai: likely good; depends on Dugglyn

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Thank you

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

If you were vindick you'd want us to vote for you Dug

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Yeah that’s my point
I don’t want you to
I’m Val

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Although
Vindick can't win with the town
So we have to kill them eventually, right?
Maybe it'd be better to do it now and not when they've visited all of us, then not everyone dies

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

You aren't Val cause I'm not mafia

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

I’m fairly sure you are
Cause Noelle is probably neutral (hence lying about Val)
And I’m a townie
So you’re a baddie

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

I'm willing to maybe believe you're a townie, just because you don't appear to be trying to get yourself lynched right now, but you're not Val

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Someone tried to roleblock me again.

I am quite suspicious of Dugglyn, but if there is any way we can still save Noelle we should do that first. If we lose two town members, we've lost the game. We don't have any more time for mistakes.

Alastair Cruciatus said...

I believe Noelle is Valkyrie. My role is one of those she listed.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Not everyone who Vindick visits dies when they do. Just one, selected with a random generator. The random generator could select Ghastly or Corrival if those roles exist and Vindick visits one of them. Elemental "citizen-ish" roles are immune so if that happened no one would die. Same for if the random generator picked someone who was jailed or healed that night (either the night Vindick dies, or the night immediately after if he dies during the day). However, if the random generator selects someone who is not an immune role and not protected, That person will explode into flames. Whoopsie.

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Oh, I see. Thank you for the explanation.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

So
If Vindick has only visited Noelle, and China takes Noelle for the night we can lynch Vindick without losing a townie?

Noelle said...

It is possible, I suppose.

Look, dugglyn is lying- motives aside, it’s probably for a bad reason.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Yes

However China also needs to submit a decision on who to jail before the end of the day. So they couldn't just wait to see what role the lynched person was.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

What do people think? Is it worth the risk? Kill Dug today, assuming that her motives are bad and she's either Mafia or a bad neutral, and have China take Noelle in for the night to protect her?

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Well, we have solid evidence that Dugglyn is lying. Unless we can gather enough evidence to hang someone else before the day is over, we may have to try it.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Okay then.. CastVote Dugglyn

Raves said...

I still think Jai is evil. I think Elleni is also evil (but that's only a very new feeling). I think Dug is the neutral. I think Trip is also likely to be evil.

I don't want to kil Dug when we don't know enough about the maf yet, so I want to use more of this day phase to get to the bottom of it. Turn up the heat on some people who could be in the shadows.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

I see no reason to believe Noelle over me but okay then
I see who the favorite isn’t here

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

...that was supposed to say is, but isn’t works too 😂

Noelle said...

castvote Dugglyn

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

And I agree with Noelle because none of the roles Dug listed match mine

Raven, why do you think I'm evil? Is it just gut feeling again?

Raves said...

Bc i don't think there's enough town roles for us all to be good.

We have China, Val, Myself, and then a Synecdoche claim and if all that is true.... then you're probs a baddie. And i think you're telling the truth when you say that Dugglyn's list doesnt have your role on it because I think you're either BRS or Gallow.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Well at least it isn't gut feeling
I'm Corrival Deuce, just like I told China night one when she kidnapped me. It's a kinda boring role.
So what are you Raven?

Raves said...

I died as Grouse and came back an Edgley

Anonymous said...

Sorry to have missed all of that, looks like quite the debate! Perhaps I can provide a little clarity.

I'm China, which Alastair can corroborate and Jai and Dugglyn also know, but they're suspicious so we'll have to see.

Silente told me she was Corrival Deuce, Alastair said that he was Ghastly but Dugglyn
Dugglyn claimed Skulduggery Pleasant
I'm currently finding out if I can recapture Dugglyn but if not we should probably vote for her.

Interestingly, she said that I should interview Silente next, despite knowing that I'd already interviewed her
What that says I dunno.

So Alastair and Noelle could be colluding, or Silente could be be another Diablerie, or none of them. Not super sure.
But Dugglyn is almost definately guilty.

Anonymous said...

Some other notes:
The chronology of my interviewd was 1. Jai 2. Dugglyn 3. Alastair

Night two someone tried to heal Dugglyn and someone tried to investigate her

Someone tried to roleblock Alastair night 3

It's kinda wierd that he didn't say I kidnapped him? I'm pretty sure he's innocent since I'm pretty sure Noelle is Valkyrie (unless someone else claims it :P) but it is kinda suspicious behaviour

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Uh, I doubt Trip is China
I wasn’t taken in for investigation

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Oooh I bet Alastair isn’t innocent and they killed Noelle first, knowing she’d be able to stay in the game and then would be fairy protected from being killed during the day AND it takes most of the suspicion off of Alastair

Alastair Cruciatus said...

At this point, I think there is just more evidence to support Noelle's claim; several people have agreed with her role lists, and at least one person has disagreed with Dugglyn's. Trip's claim gives us another reason to suspect Dugglyn.

I was taken in by China last night. That's why I said that someone tried to roleblock me. I didn't say that initially for two reasons. One- I know that Trip isn't lying about his role, now, because no one else knew China interrogated me. And two- I was content letting people believe I was China until the real one revealed their role. It's true that I am Ghastly- I'm a town role with no real power. Yet I've been roleblocked twice in a row, and I think that revealing you're China makes you quite a target. If I let people believe it was me, or at least that I have some power, there's a good chance the Diablerie would keep wasting their roleblocks on me (if they are the ones roleblocking me), or try to kill me instead of whoever China actually is.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

THEYRE ALL IN IT TOGETHER
EVEN FABI
THEYRE ALL MAFIA MEMEBES
RUN
HIDE
ESCAPE WHILE YOU STILL CAN!

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Well damn

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Actually, for the past few games the Mafia have often claimed town power roles or neutral roles. But still, I can see why I would seem suspicious. It is always a gamble to withhold any information in this game, but I had my reasons, and so far they have worked out. Now I know to trust Trip. We could both be lying, but if we were, at least one non-suspicious person should have counterclaimed by now, by your logic.

Anonymous said...

How close are we to a kill?

Alastair Cruciatus said...

It would be great if you could take Noelle in for questioning, and then we can vote to hang Dugglyn. We can't afford to lose two town members in one night. And I'd still like to try to find some of the Diablerie if we can, but at least we can be reasonably sure Dugglyn is guilty.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

There are 4 votes for Dugglyn and the majority is 5

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure I'm dead lol

If I die does my protection still work?

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

If China jails someone and dies that night, the jailed person would still be protected from attacks.

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like we have any way of protecting you, Trip. Unless we have a good roleblocker or a good teleporter who is able to intervene.
If we do have a Fletcher among us, I would be safe to switch with Trip, as I don't really have any power. Unless we can discover a Diablerie member before night falls.

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Elleni, what reason do we have not to suspect you? We know you aren't Kenspeckle, so your only non- Diablerie role available for you to claim was Synechdoche. And according to your own comment, it is the easiest role for a member of the Diablerie to claim. And you've just been going along voting for whoever seems to be the popular choice at the moment.
That doesn't really constitute evidence that you're guilty, but it seems at least a little suspicious to me.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

unvote Jai
Castvote Elleni

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Why have you changed your vote, if I might ask?

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Idk why not?

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Fabi, is there a set time/day that the day is ending?
Just want to make sure we make our decisions in time :)

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

I asked her about that and she said it was supposed to end some time tomorrow but she forgot to specify, so we’ll see what happens:)


So ya know, if ya want me dead someone needs to vote ASAP
If not, that’s chill too
(It seems pointless to convince all yey’all of my innocence, you don’t seem to believe me and I’m out of ways of convincing you)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

You could vote for yourself Dug :P

So Elleni, Conk, Me, Noelle have voted, yeah?
Trip, Al, Raven, if you want to lynch today then one of y'all needs to vote

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

How about Tuesday at 10am Pacific time so I'm giving you a fair amount of notice (also that's after my sculpture final is due)

Alastair Cruciatus said...

I am happy to vote Dugglyn. But once one of us does, the day will end, and at this point we need as much information as we can get. So I have been hoping that the longer we stretch out the day, the more likely it is we will find a Diablerie member, or at least evidence of one. Then we would have an edge for the next day. Or, if we are lucky and we do have a Fletcher, we could ask Fletcher to switch that member with whoever their most likely target is. Probably Trip.

Alastair Cruciatus said...

I wish you the best of luck with your sculpture final.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Good luck with your scripture final!

And that works :) now we have more time

Raves said...

So we have

Noelle - Valkyrie
Alastair - Bespoke
Trip - China
Raven - Edgley

Dugglyn - Vindick

Elleni - Batu/Gallow
And then Connor and Jai are both either BRS (to account for the swap) and Gallow (to account for roleblock) and Batu if Elleni is not.

If Noelle is telling the truth surely we keep Dug alive and take out one of these mafia boys

Raves said...

I reckon

castvote Elleni

This way we either get rid of the chief or possibly even the roleblocker, who is doing us some damage but not letting everyone go through with their actions.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Raven is also a Mafia member

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Now that you bring that up, I have a question. Is it possible for Vindick to kill someone without dying, or can he only try to kill if we hang him?
If he can't kill whenever he wants, I would be glad to hang someone else instead, provided we have good evidence. If we make any mistakes, it's over for us. With that in mind, I do think Elleni is suspicious, but I'm not entirely convinced.

Does anyone else have actual information? Or are we just speculating?

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Pretending you guys are right about your info, if I was Vindick and you hung me, you’ve found a way to protect Noelle, who currently appears to be the only person Vindick has visited, meaning you would potentially get rid of a hostile neutral and not loose any townies

However you’re all wrong, I’m Valkyrie, everyone is lying

Alastair Cruciatus said...

As much as I would love to hang someone from the Diablerie, as I said, I don't have any real evidence, and we can't afford to make any mistakes. So I'm more willing to vote for Dugglyn than Elleni unless we come up with a better reason to suspect her than I gave.

Also, Dugglyn, if you really are Vindick, you could try to visit someone you think is Diablerie tonight, in case we don't hang you today. Then we would have more reason to hang you the next day, because we could potentially get rid of two enemies at once.

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

Tick tock, tick tock...!

Alastair Cruciatus said...

If I haven't heard anything by tomorrow morning, I'll vote for Dugglyn.

Raves said...

Please guys, I genuinely reckon we at least try for a member of the Diablerie bc if we do get it wrong, we're kind of cooked anyway.

You got to risk it to get the biscuit.

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

I'd rather lynch someone that we have decent evidence of not being a townie on than lynch someone with less evidence and hope that they aren't a townie

Maybe Raven is a Mafia member. She's protecting Dug, who we've established probably isn't a town role, instead trying to convince us to lynch someone we have less evidence on, and both her and Dug have said they suspect me from the beginning, with Dug going so far as to frame me by claiming the Valkyrie role. Idk. Just seems weird to be. If Dug turns out to be mafia then I think Raven might be too

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Alright. It doesn't seem to me as though we're getting anywhere new. Trip, please keep Noelle safe. And if anyone is capable of protecting Trip, please do.

castvote Dugglyn

Raves said...

Okay cool whatever.

unvote Elleni
castvote Dugglyn


I just think this will play out badly if Dug is the neutral.

Alastair Cruciatus said...

You could be right. But even if we had tried, there weren't enough of us here at the last minute to make a change in vote matter. So we'll just have to hope for the best.

Star Inkbright said...

Wow, things have got exciting...! kind of sad I'm dead lol